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#1635022
Oct-25-2009 02:52 AM
| MC, if you are reading this, read carefully.
Promises are things that you can make sure will happen. One of your promises was to include mass transit in the game. Did you do that? No. We Solo players feel left out because of your PO (and money) obsession. You are loosing money, anyway, as only a small number of people will be willing to pay for the PO. Why couldn't you just stick to the Solo mode and make a game that could've really WOW'd us, that would be worthy enough to be compared to SimCity 4 (the greatest SimCity of all time!). What I'm asking for is at least let us pay a one-time fee for the additional content, including mass transit. Or include it as an expansion pack. If you want money, that's the way to go. Please consider this before the Solo Cities XL is recognized as another SimCity Societies... |
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#1635044
Oct-25-2009 04:38 AM
| As I'm also only playing in Solo, my city gets to suffer because of the stupid Solo Trading |
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#1635528
Oct-26-2009 06:34 AM
| Mass transit absolutely should be in the SP mode - you're buying an incomplete game otherwise! (which I did)
The other alternative is to make PO a lot cheaper, like US$2/mth. They'd get a whole lot more people playing it then! |
#1635962
Oct-27-2009 05:29 AM
| who's excited to pay for trains we've had since 1989? Anyone? If you thought $6 a month was frustrating, wait until you gotta pay extra for busses, trains, subways, etc! Forget that you can get all of that in a $10 game...but of course you'd be told "That game had years of community content built around it!" Yeah...trains...terraforming...more than one or two lot sizes...deep micromanaging and traffic simulator...subways...busses...elevated rail(like the pictures of such a thing they showed us during CitiesXL concept phase)... i dunno, simcity fans must be spoiled, but then I look at what a 6+ year old game offers compared to what we get out of a game in 2009. It just doesn't stack up, the 6 year old game has way more features, depth and content, regardless of community downloads. I didn't have to pay extra to get features we've had for two decades and got advancements in the series. CitiesXL just feels like a 3D version of an old school city game asking customers to fork over extra for the modern day features we'd come to expect in a city simulator. |
#1636015
Oct-27-2009 09:17 AM
You should be glad they aren't making you pay separately for say... roads, or the opportunity to build schools, or even the zones themselves! I can imagine them saying: "Residential and commercial zones are shipped free with the single player game. Industrial zones are exclusive to Planet Offer subscribers."  I can actually see that working if all single players are forced to buy their industrial tokens from Omnicorp. And perhaps some Monte Cristo executive reads this and a light bulb appears above their head. Maybe if I'd suggested it back on the official forums, MC would have found a new way to annoy people.  Or did they just leave mass transit out of the game because it wasn't ready? When there were so many more important things to work on. At least they got their priorities right with the avatar system, eh?  |
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#1636361
Oct-27-2009 09:31 PM
| Ready or not, Monte Cristo spent years making promises on what they are going to have in the game only to change their tune about a year ago(when they started talking up Planet Offer) and now we have to pay extra for what I can get in a $10 game made 6+ years ago.
You don't call your game "XL" or do a city simulator without mass transit. Especially after the fiasco of Simcity Societies having only roads and the insane backlash they got because of it. Surely Monte Cristo knew releasing a city simulator with just roads wouldn't be enough. They DID show us elevated rail in the early stages of development. Are simcity fans just spoiled? I have no desire to pay extra for content. There's no justifying it when a 6+ year old game does the genre better without nickel and diming the customer on features we've had for two decades. |
#1636891
Oct-28-2009 11:30 PM
| Please avoid simply raking over the same issues and complaints over and over... |
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#1637589
Oct-30-2009 09:27 AM
| Oh boy, I hope I didn't offend anyone with my post earlier. *sigh* It's easy to demonise MC, but it was only really to hide my true feelings. I feel that CXL will never be a perfect game. You're probably thinking "Well SC4 isn't perfect." I just sorta got bored of SC4 after the number of times I have started over because I didn't like my region. And now I'm bored of Cities XL and I haven't even bought the game! I don't wanna talk about it anymore, even though I check these threads every other day just to see if something interesting has happened. Time for me to move on, I think. I need to get away from all this CXL drama. |
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#1637647
Oct-30-2009 12:59 PM
| Ditto...the only reason I check the cxl threads is in the unlikely event MC releases a massive expansion pack within the next 3-6 months. Until then...well, i'll be spending my money, just not here. In reply to someone else's comment, no, I would NEVER join planet offer for even 2 dollars...or free for that matter. I do NOT want my cities on someone else's server. Period. And a lot of people feel the same way I do. |
#1639064
Nov-02-2009 02:44 AM
Please avoid simply raking over the same issues and complaints over and over... I appologize, I definitely went off on a rant that's been done to death, I'm sure. I just expected mass transit to make it to the actual final game, and not nickel'd and dime'd upon customers. Considering they showed off elevated rail very early in the concept phase of CitiesXL; Grant it, it was conceptual; Monte Cristo led us on to expect rail would make it to the final game in some form and while it didn't make it, we're now going to have to pay extra to get it. I feel like this is going to really disconnect the community from downloadable content. It will get to a point(very soon) where the community will be asked to purchase the GEM's/etc. in order to get the full experience CitiesXL has to offer. Don't get me wrong, many mods/downloads require RushHour, but that was a full expansion, not a "pick and choose" what you want in the game. Just feels like something as simple as mass transit and future GEM's will really throw a curve ball at the modding community. Will there be enough people purchasing mass transit GEM's to warrent a lot of custom content by the community? Feels to much of a "wait and see" to jump on the band wagon currently, and ultimately I feel like that is too much of a consensius around the Simcity community to think that this game will really take off the way Simcity 4 has. It's going to require the community to invest in Monte Cristo's promises and vision. Interesting dynamic Monte Cristo is creating, and definitely a pricey one. I just don't feel like paying extra for trains when we've had a simplistic form of trains since 1989. This kind of "duh" features such as mass transit in a city builder game should be free. |
#1631314
Nov-02-2009 11:17 AM
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Edited: 11/02/2009 at 11:16 AM by Simtropolis Moderator
#1626785
Nov-02-2009 07:42 PM
| Is passenger services/exceptional actual working ingame. Very time i click of the icons nothing happens.... Are these features actual ingame yet? Thanks in advance for any replies! |
#1627098
Nov-02-2009 07:42 PM
| I don't think so becuase I remember hearing somewhere that they would be out by the end of this month (hopefully)... |
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#1627247
Nov-02-2009 07:42 PM
| There are exceptional items.. there's an oil conglomerate office building, a kodak shop, and I think a farm bureau office, at minimum. As for passenger services, there is no mass transit, if that's what you mean. Passenger service as a road stat is the human equivalent of freight, and is important for hotels, as well as office and tourism trade. |
#1638756
Nov-02-2009 07:42 PM
| I had the office and education exceptional buildings in the menu, then they seemed to disappear. I thought maybe they just weren't available but then i found them mentioned here
http://www.cities-xl.info/construction/industry/offices/ Any ideas? |
#1640465
Nov-04-2009 01:46 PM
| Any (new) news about the mass-transit now the first pack is released? |
Current work: Ribbon City 2.0 |
Edited: 11/04/2009 at 07:17 PM by Simtropolis Moderator
#1639385
Nov-04-2009 07:29 PM
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Edited: 11/04/2009 at 07:28 PM by abcvs
#1641033
Nov-05-2009 07:04 AM
| first of all like to apologies to the forum and forum rules,
i have just received a letter from someone at Monte Cristo ,Peter something?, which they apologies for the miss-communication and reassure that there will be more stuff available in the next coming months including the release of pack 3 which will includes the transportation pack...although will only be available to the planet offer. i have suggested to them to post more information on their website too...and referred them to this forum for all happy testimonials haha , hopefully if they do this they're will be more explanations for your questions but only time will tell... |
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#1641148
Nov-05-2009 12:23 PM
| OK, this is really getting repetitive guys. I didn~t read the entire thread, but I imagine in 10 pages of comments there are at least 100 on how it sucks that there´s no mass transit and when it comes it´s gonna be only for the PO. Can´t you people think of anything else????? One would think that a month after release you´ll get tired of repeating the same stuff, but obviously that´s not gonna happen. I have a suggestion for you: If you like soooooooooooooo much SC4 and think this is the definite city-builder of all times, why doesn´t somebody get to work on bringing SC4´s graphics to present day and somhow add a grid -free road system? Than you´ll be able to say with clean concience that SC4 is the best game ever..... Oh yes, maybe because it´s gygantic work!!!!!!!!! Maybe because all you´re ready to do for your gaming experience is pay $40 once every 5 years and (if you´re a modder) play with it for the next 5 years. It has never crossed your mind that someone out there has worked hard on something and continues working even harder on the same thing, even though there is whining and cursing from all sides. You can´t accept the notion that this someone would like to get paid for the work he has done in the last years, while you were sitting comfortably in your chair, clicking after work/school.... I´m sorry if the post sounds harsh. Moderator, feel free to delete it, I just wanted to vent a bit. |
#1641200
Nov-05-2009 03:02 PM
OK, this is really getting repetitive guys. I didn~t read the entire thread, but I imagine in 10 pages of comments there are at least 100 on how it sucks that there´s no mass transit and when it comes it´s gonna be only for the PO. Can´t you people think of anything else????? One would think that a month after release you´ll get tired of repeating the same stuff, but obviously that´s not gonna happen. I have a suggestion for you: If you like soooooooooooooo much SC4 and think this is the definite city-builder of all times, why doesn´t somebody get to work on bringing SC4´s graphics to present day and somhow add a grid -free road system? Than you´ll be able to say with clean concience that SC4 is the best game ever..... Oh yes, maybe because it´s gygantic work!!!!!!!!! Maybe because all you´re ready to do for your gaming experience is pay $40 once every 5 years and (if you´re a modder) play with it for the next 5 years. It has never crossed your mind that someone out there has worked hard on something and continues working even harder on the same thing, even though there is whining and cursing from all sides. You can´t accept the notion that this someone would like to get paid for the work he has done in the last years, while you were sitting comfortably in your chair, clicking after work/school.... I´m sorry if the post sounds harsh. Moderator, feel free to delete it, I just wanted to vent a bit. Umm...this IS the Mass Transit Thread. What do you people think we are going to talk about here? If you don't want to hear commentary regarding lack of mass transit in the game, I suggest you find a new thread. |
#1641219
Nov-05-2009 03:36 PM
| Well, that's exactly it, it's lacking. After you comment on the fact that something is lacking for 100 times, don't you think it gets redundand?
Look, no offense, you surely have the right to talk about it, I just think the issue was exhausted a month ago. I read some info back in the middle of the thread that there is a chance of mass transit making it into single player as well, but nobody seems to be commenting on that. The entire last page is dedicated at demonising MC.... |
#1641227
Nov-05-2009 03:53 PM
| There was little disappointment when sc4 came out and as such - too many nails - its dead to me. There are just things that needed to be done that haven't and with the community they gave us over at cities xl, I would have expected further detail in their explanation rather than posts informing us when the much needed content is to be given... foot by foot I've stayed with them... but now at six feet they've nailed every nail in the coffin and it's dead to me. |
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#1641309
Nov-05-2009 06:11 PM
Well, that's exactly it, it's lacking. After you comment on the fact that something is lacking for 100 times, don't you think it gets redundand? Look, no offense, you surely have the right to talk about it, I just think the issue was exhausted a month ago. I read some info back in the middle of the thread that there is a chance of mass transit making it into single player as well, but nobody seems to be commenting on that. The entire last page is dedicated at demonising MC.... Gonna have to agree with you there soltangris... pointing out over and over the same things does indeed get tiresome. So here is the deal folks... the thread can stay... for now... but I am going to take the pin out and see what happens... (however moderating is never an exact science... ) If you feel that you have something really significant to add to the discussion that is simply not raking over the same old stuff... then please add to it. If you don't have anything new to add or you simply want to continue whining and complaining... then... ...please don't. If there does continue to be repeative posts.. then don't be surprised if they are simply deleted. |
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Edited: 11/05/2009 at 06:24 PM by abcvs
#1641986
Nov-06-2009 02:28 PM
| I guess my point is...how would a Mass Transit Thread even apply to CXL? The game clearly has none. Perhaps the entire thread needs to go. |
#1641993
Nov-06-2009 03:03 PM
| Solo Players currently have no reason to be any angrier than any other player about mass transit, since nobody has it. However as a point of curiosity, what is there about mass transit that people want. By that I mean would the presence of things like trains even if not connected to the traffic system, be enough? Currently in the game traffic doesn't work very well so I'm not sure that anybody is missing anything other than eye candy. Would eye candy be enough? Something that MC has implied lately is that some things could trickle down to SP eventually. An ugly fact of life is that there are very few things that make the PO different then the SP game. Currently the only thing that sets them apart is a small amount of exclusive content and online trading. When that changes I believe that the chances of things like buses and trains will slowly be made available to the SP community. This of course is an opinion and I have no connection to MC. |
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#1642006
Nov-06-2009 03:44 PM
Solo Players currently have no reason to be any angrier than any other player about mass transit, since nobody has it. However as a point of curiosity, what is there about mass transit that people want. By that I mean would the presence of things like trains even if not connected to the traffic system, be enough? Currently in the game traffic doesn't work very well so I'm not sure that anybody is missing anything other than eye candy. Would eye candy be enough? Apart from traffic moving past intersections one lane at a time in a very unrealistic way, what is it about traffic that doesn't work very well? Trains are one thing to consider if all your talking about is freight but what about buses and taxi cab services to reduce commute. The thing is my SP cities have traffic issues(not that I really care, the cities run fine even with bad traffic) but why leave out something so glaringly obvious for a city building game such as mass transit? It just doesn't make sense. A city of 1 million + needs mass transit, point. Whether mass transit is out yet or not is irrelevant if they only plan to add it to the PO mode. I would like this issue raised high enough so that when it does come out it's not some expansion pack money grabbing scheme. |
#1642007
Nov-06-2009 03:48 PM
As I'm also only playing in Solo, my city gets to suffer because of the stupid Solo Trading From my experience in playing solo only, the trading is not as bad as you would suggest. In fact I have to say the solo trading makes perfectly good sense. There must be some other reason your city is suffering(a bad mayor maybe..... oops, I said it.) |
#1642010
Nov-06-2009 03:58 PM
Ditto...the only reason I check the cxl threads is in the unlikely event MC releases a massive expansion pack within the next 3-6 months. Until then...well, i'll be spending my money, just not here. In reply to someone else's comment, no, I would NEVER join planet offer for even 2 dollars...or free for that matter. I do NOT want my cities on someone else's server. Period. And a lot of people feel the same way I do. I am with you 100% on not paying even 6$ for a city building game, money isn't an issue. But and I mean huge but, you are missing out on the newest city building game(which don't come out evey year) and even in SP without mass transit I have been able to enjoy several hours of building much more realistic cities then I could in SC4. Of course I will get bored of it after a month or two but I love city building games and this one was worth the try already. |
#1642375
Nov-07-2009 04:12 AM
| a letter i received today, from XL team might explain things...
Dear rabbi, First of all, we would like to thank you for your interest in the Cities XL. You can count on us, we'll post more info on the subject...as soon as we will be sure about these information. Still no release date for the GEM (probably Xmas), and no price to communicate on. Regarding the bus system, it's still in progress but will be soon available. We truely would like to have a sharp communication on these subjects, since we know that players are awaiting for it, but we just cannot yet. Thanks again for playing Cities XL. Best regards, The Cities XL Team. |
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#1642378
Nov-07-2009 04:31 AM
| I just wish that we will be able to adjust the buses travel routs just like in Transport Tycoon or what ever the games name was that was fun 10 years ago. If they just lets us plop down a bus station like a building and have no control what so ever, then Im gonna kill my self - I will also kill a cute bunny.
I hate to delete buildings just to put down a bus stop and not having control over the transport system is so 1990. I just really really hope that MC will give us a wow feeling over this! Im so excited! Omg! |
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